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Post by maya on Nov 15, 2006 2:01:07 GMT -5
natural lng na gawin niya ang makakaya niya.. maraming naninira kay manny na gs2 raw nila matalo si paquiao.. bat kasi ganyan tayong mga pilipino? once na sikat na ang isang tao sisiraan natin dahil ayaw nating aminin na inggit tayo.. sabi ng sabing gusto kong matalo si pacquiao kasi ganito ganun.. kaya hindi umaasenso ang pinas eh dahil sa mga ganyang tao sya na nga nag rerepresent ng pinas ganyan pa rin ang iba.. tsk bad.. hay... hindi ko na tuloy alam kung go pacuiao ang isisgaw ko.. >..< gusto kong manalo si paquiao kasi pilipino siya... proud ang marami sa kanya di ba? pero kung matatalo siya, magkakaroon ng opportunity yung ibang boxers.. i mean... give chance to others naman... celebrate tayo! noypi ang nanalo sa billiards!! ^^ matatalino siguro ang mga billiards people kasi siyempre.. ginagamitan nila ng PHYSICS ang pagtira.. kung gano kalakas ang force na iaaply nila para ang velocity ng bola eh katamtaman lang... tsaka yung angle ng pagtira... at siyempre hindi mawawala ang friction.. kung gaano karaming chalk ang ilalagay sa dulo ng.. .ano yung tawag dun sa stick? sensya na.. hindi ako magaling sa billiards... ^^
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Post by Mac? on Nov 15, 2006 6:17:08 GMT -5
isigaw mu syempre go pacquiao at anong give chance? pag nag give chance d nnaman mkikilala ang pinas. hindi lahat pwdeng give chance kasi mas na kikilala talaga tayo at sa bilyar lahat yun alam kahit yung mga tambay hihi.. peru aus lng slamat s pg explain? hehe...
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Post by maya on Nov 16, 2006 1:01:48 GMT -5
ay.. kulang pala sinulat ko... give chance to other Filipino boxers.. ^^
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Post by kurkeh on Nov 16, 2006 4:19:34 GMT -5
natural lng na gawin niya ang makakaya niya.. maraming naninira kay manny na gs2 raw nila matalo si paquiao.. bat kasi ganyan tayong mga pilipino? once na sikat na ang isang tao sisiraan natin dahil ayaw nating aminin na inggit tayo.. sabi ng sabing gusto kong matalo si pacquiao kasi ganito ganun.. haha. ano ba namang klase ng argument ang gustong palabasin mo ser? hindi lahat ng taong naghahangad na matalo si pacquiao ay agad-agad na mga naninira sa kanya. at it doesn't necessarily mean na naiinggit sila. truncated at distorted ang ganitong klase ng logic. una, dahil hasty generalization ang mga statement na ito. ni walang basehan at katibayan. alam ko, iyo lamang sinasabi ang iyong saloobin. at inirerespeto ko iyon. well, sana ikaw din marunong mangrespeto ng opinyon ng iba. on my part of the story, i have been rooting for Manny Pacquiao every since his tragic fall from grace in Thailand. mula noon, go, go,go Manny ako. pero from the things that has been happening to his training and in-house management, para yatang hindi na maganda. think of getting your own coach as your manager? para sa akin, parang di na ata magandang si Freddie Roach pa ang maging manager ni Manny. we can say that Roach is really is a good trainer, but is he a good manager as well? baka malaki lang ang percentage cut nya sa pay ni Manny. yun ang pwede nating sabihin na makakahatak pababa kay Manny, both financially and career-wise. medyo na tuturn-off lang ako kasi hindi na maganda ang nangyayari kay Manny. sabihin na nating he'll do all his best sa fight pero iba pa rin kung ready ka for the fight, which means getting lots of practice, sparring and training. Manny may have lacked all of these aspects because of his promotional tours, tapings and other stuff. i believe, he should do his best for this fight kasi ang daming taong umiidolo sa kanya. as in super fanatical na. kawawa naman ang mga taong yun kung sakaling matalo si Manny. hindi dapat lagi kumpiyansya lang, dapat may preparasyon. at kung tutuusin, Manny Pacquaio is at the height of his career. sabi nga nila the higher you'll get, the harder you'll fall. parang si Icarus. sana hindi mangyari kay Pacquiao yun. kung mangyari man kay Pacquiao yun, sana mas maaga nya itong marealize at hindi yung later na sa career nya. All things said, hindi ako anti-Manny Pacquaio. medyo naasiwa na lang ako sa kanya. as i have expressed before, gusto ko lang magkaroon ng "humbling experience" si Pacquiao to bring back to his wits. yun lang. sana wag tayong mag-generalize dahil hindi ito mabuti. maari tayong makatapak ng mga taong hindi naman dapat tamaan. Good News for Manny Pacquaio fans. May balita na Morales is overweight ng 6 lbs!!! ang laki nun. and he has about a week to cut the pounds off. ang hirap nun. 6 pounds in a week's time might kill a person. sure, hirap ang Morales sa kanilang laban, that is, if Manny Pacquaio can still throw a real punch and not like his sissy choreography in his Extreme Magic Sing TV commercial.
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Post by maya on Nov 16, 2006 5:01:02 GMT -5
natural lng na gawin niya ang makakaya niya.. maraming naninira kay manny na gs2 raw nila matalo si paquiao.. bat kasi ganyan tayong mga pilipino? once na sikat na ang isang tao sisiraan natin dahil ayaw nating aminin na inggit tayo.. sabi ng sabing gusto kong matalo si pacquiao kasi ganito ganun.. haha. ano ba namang klase ng argument ang gustong palabasin mo ser? hindi lahat ng taong naghahangad na matalo si pacquiao ay agad-agad na mga naninira sa kanya. at it doesn't necessarily mean na naiinggit sila. truncated at distorted ang ganitong klase ng logic. una, dahil hasty generalization ang mga statement na ito. ni walang basehan at katibayan. alam ko, iyo lamang sinasabi ang iyong saloobin. at inirerespeto ko iyon. well, sana ikaw din marunong mangrespeto ng opinyon ng iba. on my part of the story, i have been rooting for Manny Pacquiao every since his tragic fall from grace in Thailand. mula noon, go, go,go Manny ako. pero from the things that has been happening to his training and in-house management, para yatang hindi na maganda. think of getting your own coach as your manager? para sa akin, parang di na ata magandang si Freddie Roach pa ang maging manager ni Manny. we can say that Roach is really is a good trainer, but is he a good manager as well? baka malaki lang ang percentage cut nya sa pay ni Manny. yun ang pwede nating sabihin na makakahatak pababa kay Manny, both financially and career-wise. medyo na tuturn-off lang ako kasi hindi na maganda ang nangyayari kay Manny. sabihin na nating he'll do all his best sa fight pero iba pa rin kung ready ka for the fight, which means getting lots of practice, sparring and training. Manny may have lacked all of these aspects because of his promotional tours, tapings and other stuff. i believe, he should do his best for this fight kasi ang daming taong umiidolo sa kanya. as in super fanatical na. kawawa naman ang mga taong yun kung sakaling matalo si Manny. hindi dapat lagi kumpiyansya lang, dapat may preparasyon. at kung tutuusin, Manny Pacquaio is at the height of his career. sabi nga nila the higher you'll get, the harder you'll fall. parang si Icarus. sana hindi mangyari kay Pacquiao yun. kung mangyari man kay Pacquiao yun, sana mas maaga nya itong marealize at hindi yung later na sa career nya. All things said, hindi ako anti-Manny Pacquaio. medyo naasiwa na lang ako sa kanya. as i have expressed before, gusto ko lang magkaroon ng "humbling experience" si Pacquiao to bring back to his wits. yun lang. sana wag tayong mag-generalize dahil hindi ito mabuti. maari tayong makatapak ng mga taong hindi naman dapat tamaan. Good News for Manny Pacquaio fans. May balita na Morales is overweight ng 6 lbs!!! ang laki nun. and he has about a week to cut the pounds off. ang hirap nun. 6 pounds in a week's time might kill a person. sure, hirap ang Morales sa kanilang laban, that is, if Manny Pacquaio can still throw a real punch and not like his sissy choreography in his Extreme Magic Sing TV commercial. wow kurkeh... mag-apply ka kaya sa magazine... o sa newspaper... ang galing mong mag-expalin ng opinion.... teka.. yun ba ang job mo? ^^ haha!! speaking of logic.. tama yung sinabi mo.. wala siyang masyadong proof para sabihin yun.. ano nga ba tawag dun?! .....*whacking my head sa wall... trying to remember our lessons in philo/logic* oh well... >..<
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Post by Mac? on Nov 17, 2006 19:05:37 GMT -5
umm.. wla nmn atang nkalagay na lahat na tao? ang ibig kung sabihin para lang sakin na karamihang tao eh ganyan in my own perspective. kasi d2 samin sa chat at sa ibang kakilala eh mga ganyan. sila ang tinutukoy ko na halimbawa ng mga cguro na iinggit o naninira at dahil ito lng ang aking basehan sa tinging ko lng na parang karamihan eh ganyan. sabihin na nating maraming kang na lalaman tungkol sa kanya pero na isip mo ba na baka na impluensyahan sya ng ibang tao? maybe he indorsed the magic sing thingy kasi sabi ng asawa niya. malay mo ayaw nya naman pero pinilit siya ng asawa niya or something. or maybe naman na gusto niyang iparanas sa pamilya niya kung what its like to be infront of a camera. oo nga noh parang kulang sa training wala naman tayong magagawa diyan kasi nasa kanya na ang desisyon. lets hope nlng talaga na manalo siya. gs2 ku tlgang makilala ang pinas at umasenso kahit sino naman ata.. good luck nlng
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Post by kurkeh on Nov 18, 2006 5:56:08 GMT -5
maya: haha. maliit sweldo dun. pero i've tried working for a men's magazine before. actually. malabo nga eh. medyo hindi napag-isipan. pasensya na sa blurt out.
may tsismis na black campaign lang ang extra weight ni Morales. good luck PacMan. hehe.
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Post by kurkeh on Nov 18, 2006 6:23:15 GMT -5
umm.. wla nmn atang nkalagay na lahat na tao? ang ibig kung sabihin para lang sakin na karamihang tao eh ganyan in my own perspective. kasi d2 samin sa chat at sa ibang kakilala eh mga ganyan. sila ang tinutukoy ko na halimbawa ng mga cguro na iinggit o naninira at dahil ito lng ang aking basehan sa tinging ko lng na parang karamihan eh ganyan. okay. from the context of what you have said, plausible ang iyong mungkahi. and i am sorry for the abrupt comment. medyo nawindang lang ako. may be i was to defensive. malaki nga ang difference ng "marami" sa "lahat." peace. sabihin na nating maraming kang na lalaman tungkol sa kanya pero na isip mo ba na baka na impluensyahan sya ng ibang tao? maybe he indorsed the magic sing thingy kasi sabi ng asawa niya. malay mo ayaw nya naman pero pinilit siya ng asawa niya or something. or maybe naman na gusto niyang iparanas sa pamilya niya kung what its like to be infront of a camera. okay, sabihin na nga nating ganun. pero for a man of his age, syempre may sarili ka nang diskarte sa buhay. kahit na may mga impluwensya ka sa paligid, sariling choice mo pa rin ang masusunod. at basing from the decisions he had made in the past, Manny has been consistent in "getting the dough." so more dough, more profits, di ba? simple economics. let us take for instance the sponsors that Pacquaio chooses for his fights. he takes those who can offer more. promise. medyo mahilig si Manny sa sponsors. sa lahat ng boxers na nakita ko, yung trunks lang nya ang nakita kong super dami ng ads. may chismis sa mga sports journalists na each tag is worth a million. e ilan yun? 5 million bucks for his pocket, a, e, sa Manny Pacquiao Foundation [daw] which he owns. another realible anecdote that Pacquiao gets his sponsorships for his foundation na talagang nasaksihan ko ay when the men's magazine that i have worked for before asked him for an interview. his press people encouraged our mag to "donate" to his foundation. in the media world, lalo na sa magazines at newspapers, kapag ininterview ka, dapat walang bayad kasi journalism ito. it would turn out unethical. hindi maganda. so the magazine dropped his interview. sabi ng EIC namin, hayaan na natin. this happened before Pacquiao-Morales II. but after his victory, he accepted the offer, ewan ko, baka for media mileage and was even put on the cover. natawa na lang ako sa mag. buti hindi na ako affiliated sa kanila. pero i trust the mag's people that they won't do anything unethical or stupid. at present, for his latest fight, Nike na ata ang kanyang official clothing sponsor, aside from No Fear, which was from the beginning, was the company making his boxing trunks and hood. sana nakita nyo yung super laking billboard nya sa Guadalupe. Nike ang label. ganda. bloodied, gritty and scary. tough. sana mali ako dito. pero yun ang nakita ko. hindi ako nagmamalaki sa aking nalalaman. maganda lang na mulat tayo sa mga nangyayari sa ating mga "iniidolo." yun lang.
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Post by maya on Nov 18, 2006 20:02:31 GMT -5
at least based on facts ang opinion ni kurkeh... ^^
ngayon na ang laban nina pacman..... aking akin na ulit ang kompyuter kasi lahat sila (mum and sis) manonood... mwahahaha!
basta ako, happy na sa pagkapanalo ng noypi sa billiards
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Post by kurkeh on Nov 19, 2006 23:20:54 GMT -5
congratulations to Manny Pacquiao! tough luck for Morales. haha. totoo nga ang mga chismis. nung makita ko si Morales sa official weigh-in nung sabado, kako wala na ito. hampayat nya! landslide win for Pacquaio. i'll give it to Manny na ang ganda ng mga binato nyang combos at punches. hindi na puro 1-2 which is his classic power move . his first KO on the second round is worthy of a picturesque classic KO like Frazier KOing Ali in their title bout which Ali lost. He reclaimed it in Thrilla in Manila. ganda talaga. kalog ang utak ni Morales.
correction on the Nike sponsorship. No Fear pala ang sponsor ni Manny for apparel and for his shoes, Nike. ganda nga ng suot nya during the fight, have you noticed? nagkamali ako dun. akala ko pinalitan nya, yun pala dinagdag nya! wow! again, i was right on saying that he wants tons of sponsors. hehehe.
shet, i can't wait for all the clamor and jubilations when Pacquiao comes back home. jusko, sure may bisita na naman yan sa Malacanang. sure din na may mga bagong ads acclaiming him for his monumental feat of shamelessly bashing a malnourished but willing opponent. sobrang classic nito. historical na ito pre. sure mababasa ng mga anak natin sa kanilang mga libro si Pacquiao. "Manny Pacquiao: the entrepreneurial People's Champ." saya.
for sure, there'll be more lame and corny Extreme Magic Sing commericals! woohoo! sure din na dadami din pa ang kanyang mga billboards and sabi ng isang newspaper he had earned a staggering P280K per second. wow, more money! for a 3-minute bout i guess he'll be earning about 50 million or so. hindi ako sure. wow! super yaman ni Pacquaio! sure, patay yan sa percentage cut at tax! ahaha! i can't wait kung ano ang gagawin nya sa limpak-limpak nyang pera. sure dadami pa yan.
naawa ako kay El Terrible. wala na yun. kawawa talaga. hay... that's life.
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Post by maya on Nov 20, 2006 4:40:56 GMT -5
napansin nyo ba na pati si morales may mga ads na rin sa kanyang shorts?! ^^ trend setter na rin pala si pacman.. trend setter na, kumikita pa siya! hwooh! naawa ako kay morales in a way... kasi gulat na gulat siya sa pagkatalo niya.. i mean.. nangiba yung mata niya eh.. parang batang natalo sa isang laro...... oh baka talagang nakalog yung utak nya... >..<
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Post by kurkeh on Nov 20, 2006 22:43:10 GMT -5
^on ads, actually meron na talaga yung mga ganun pero minsan isa lang, at di ganun karami. yung iba nga ang ginagawa nila henna tatoo. para sa katawan yung ad.
^on morales, kawawa nga naman siya ano? kalog na ang utak, mukha pang natalong bata. sira na career nya. retirement na ang katapat nun. unless, maging katulad siya ni Barrera.
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Post by kurkeh on Nov 20, 2006 22:46:25 GMT -5
Ganda ng sabi ni Conrado de Quiros on Manny's fight...
THERE'S THE RUB Proud to be Filipino
By Conrado de Quiros Inquirer Last updated 00:32am (Mla time) 11/21/2006
Published on Page A10 of the November 21, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer
I WONDER what it is about dictatorships that make sports flourish -- or at least about our dictatorships. If I recall right, we produced some pretty bright spots in sports during Marcos' time, too. Rolando Navarete was one of them, a hard-hitting though one-sided boxer, who went far but never quite reached the same dizzying heights as Manny Pacquiao. And if the reports are true, though he never reached those heights, he suffered the steepest falls. He is apparently now dependent on the kindness of strangers, or friends, in General Santos City, having added drugs to his many vices.
Eugene Torre was there, too, the Filipino grandmaster who at one point barged through to one of the interzonals that was to produce the challenger for the world championship. Alas, he didn't quite make it. But it was farther than any Filipino had gone before, or after.
These days, we're having some kind of renaissance in sports. I hadn't gotten over the thrill of Ronnie Alcano's victory in the world pool championships when Manny Pacquiao's demolition of Erik Morales came along.
The only thing that's problematic about it is that the dictatorships have a tendency to lay claim to their accomplishments -- and for the sports heroes themselves to oblige. The reasons are understandable: the sports heroes come from destitute circumstances, which is why they took to sports to begin with -- and can do with sponsors, however they are the most obnoxious people on earth.
Those considerations aside, I thrilled to Pacquiao's fight last Sunday afternoon. Though again my viewing was spoiled by someone who ought to know better than sending me a text message revealing the result just before the fight began. You forget all other considerations once Pacquiao steps into the ring and remember only that you're a Filipino. Or you don't even remember at all, all your instincts spring to life with it.
If that fight had any lesson to give, it is the old, but often forgotten one, which is never to fight in anger. The entire martial arts philosophy says you should fight earnestly but coolly, ferociously but dispassionately. You bring your ego to a fight, you're dead. That was what Morales forgot, and he paid the price.
Of course, he seemed like a shadow of his former self, physically as much as spiritually. He looked emaciated, his efforts to lose weight having taken its toll on his physique. As one of the commentators noted, he was surprised to see Morales look smaller than Pacquiao, a sight he never thought he would see. He did look smaller than Pacquaio because he looked thin and reedy. Terible was the last thing he radiated. But that wasn't why he lost.
He lost because he decided to engage Pacquaio in a brawl. The one moment when I thought Pacquaio had him was toward the end of the second round, when after a flurry of fierce exchanges, he looked at Pacquiao with scorn, eager to take him on at his game. Even if I hadn't known the outcome before hand (although hindsight is always 20-20 vision), I'd have thought that. Morales had always been the superior boxer, he had always been the inferior slugger. To take Pacquaio on in a slugfest was to flirt with suicide. A flirtation that was disastrously consummated.
In the end, it was Mexican hubris that did him in. Mexican boxers have always prided themselves with being able to take a punch -- glass jaws are for black fighters like Thomas Hearns, not for people like "Manos de Piedra" and stoned-jawed Roberto Duran -- and won't back away from a rumble. It was the weight of that pride that fell on Morales' shoulders last Sunday. Pacquiao had decked him once before, and when the Pacman seemed eager to do that all over again, Morales' ego was pricked. I don't know what kind of preparations he made. I myself thought he'd go back to the style that won him their first encounter, when he jabbed his way to a unanimous decision and taught his opponent a boxing lesson or two. But his eyes blazed after that second round. And that was the end of him.
None of this is to take anything away from Pacquaio who did a masterful job in the ring. And who did this nation a whole lot prouder by going over to Morales' corner, hugging his head briefly and offering consolation. It was as sportsmanlike a gesture as you could get. Truly, grace is the handmaiden of victory, humility the traveling companion of invincibility. I don't know what, or who, is in store for Pacquaio in months to come, but after last Sunday's fight, even Marco Antonio Barrera must be quaking in his boots. Pacquaio isn't getting weaker, he's getting stronger. The Pacman isn't losing his appetite, he's gobbling up everything in sight. Pound for pound, round for round, he's gone past even the great Flash Elorde.
He's the real deal, the "People's Champ," as Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo called him after the fight. Now, if he can only be as much a winner outside the ring as inside it, and learn to distinguish the genuine Filipino people who want to give to him from their fake leaders who want to take from him. But right now that hope seems a little distant. Maybe someone should tell him it's the secret to becoming a true People's Champ and not Some People's Chump.
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Post by maya on Nov 22, 2006 6:45:05 GMT -5
"..and not Some People's Chump." <-- itatatag ko yan sa isipan ko... *palakpak*
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Post by porky on Nov 23, 2006 23:26:07 GMT -5
waw!2 pages offtopic!
too bad pacquiao won.patay nanaman tayo jan!
balik sa topic talaga:
chickadees,dabes.free sticky toys rock. at yung ibang chicha na hindi naman nawala,kundi tayo ang nawala sa mundong kanilang kinikilusan,ang tapat ng elementary skuls,mga pagkaing tulad ng:
whistle joy(yung kalahate orange,kalahate pute na candy na bilog at me butas sa gitna na pag hinipan mo,sumisipol)
lala(yung chocolate bar ng masa)
mint wafer(na hindi naman mint at hindi rin wafer na kung tawagin din minsan e "kendi gamot")
naaalala ko ren yon si tita maggie,na pumupunta sa skul.tas si susy and geno.
at ang mga palabas na hindi pedeng hindi ka mamili sa inyong magpipinsan/magkakalaro kung sino ka:
Voltes V: ako si little john
Thundercats: Tigra ako dito
Bioman: green2
Eto Rangers: (yung based sa chinese zoiac yung characters na pumupunta sa iba-ibang stories)ako dito yung tiger na nagsusuot ng shades tas lumalakas.
Mga Munting Pangarap ni Romeo: ako dito si Romeo.ewan ko kung baket.sa lahat ng pili-pilian namen,dito lang ako naging main character.
X-Men: Beast
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